My Patriot is very quiet, I shot over the back of a red fox last night, little sucker, at 7 yards from the base of my tree and I was about 19 feet up. It was a pretty sever downward angle and I had lots of clothes on that were fairly snug and just didn't get down far enough. At the shot he jumped and trotted about 8 feet and stood there looking around. I had plenty of time for a second shot but he was behind some limbs. I'd say the bow was quiet enough for him.