RE: So, how quiet is your bow?
PAB,
Thanks! All the rubber pads probably work great depending on the design of the bow you're trying to tweak.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>ALOT of big bucks have been killed with some loud designs..Darton and Oneida in particular. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
Jeff, no doubt, but in the same vein, many have been killed with inaccurate and slow set-ups. It's not so much can you kill a buck with the set-up, as much as how do you prefer to attack? How many deer do you think you'll lose because your set-up is slow vs. how many do you think you'll lose because your set-up is noisy. In 32 years, I've never lost one because my set-up was too slow and 11 years I used only a recurve. Speed is almost the least important factor in the decisions I make for my bow. I'll take what speed I can get, but I won't sacrifice quiet to get it. I'm always looking at other features before speed. In particular, I pay alot of attention to brace height, ATA length and the feel of the grip in addition to the quietness of the bow.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>On a similar note: I had the exact same bow you do...Panther Mag..29" module, 70 pounds peak..paid the exact same amount you did too! Great shooting short bow, but IMO was noticeably above average regarding noise even when the cam was timed properly and set to peak weight. I had it decked out in all simms gear (leeches, limbsavers), a loop,Sorbotek stabilizer, solid rest and sight, only thing was nothing in the limb pocket. I was also shooting full length 2413's with vanes and 125 grain heads out of it (500 grains plus). It still had a failry obvious "plock" sound...which is typical of Martins.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
I have some buddies with the same bow and theirs sound a lot like your description. Like I said, so did mine, before I stripped the string, threw away the quiver, added the moleskin and the other stuff. This bow no longer sounds like the typical Martin. It is quieter than the Bowtechs, the Mathews, and the Hoyts I'm standing next to while shooting. My point is, if I can do this to a cheap Martin, then just think of the possibilites with a bow that is even quieter out of the box.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Please understand my purpose here is NOT to rag on your set-up, simply to say that there can be, and ARE quiet and fast set-ups out there.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
I agree. There are many faster than mine and also quiet. Most are a lot more expensive. If someone happens to have a cheaper model that makes a bit of noise and seriously wants to eliminate some of the noise, then it will be a lot cheaper to do some of these modifications, then to buy a new bow.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Quiet IS a very important trait for hunting bow, but sacrificing performance and accuracy for quietness is not needed with many bows designs out out there today, IMHO.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
To me, performance means hitting what you're aiming at, in this case a target capable of moving. I take it, you're referring more to speed. The question is, how much performance and accuracy am I sacrificing to get the level of quietness I want? I think very little, since I would be shooting the Martin whether I had modified anything or not. Bowhunters can take the bow they have and improve the quietness without sacrificing much of anything else. Now, if we're talking about going out and buying a new bow, that's a whole different story. I'll still disagree about the importance of an extra 20 or 30 fps. However, there are many good choices that will perform good, while making very little noise right out of the box, and yet are not super fast. Another thing about the way I set up my bows, they crono close to the IBO speeds advertised. I'm shooting them without noisy peeps, brass nocks and other things that slow the arrow down. At a 29.5" draw, I can actually get 300 fps out of this setup when set at 70 lbs and shooting a 350 grain arrow.