I agree with you James, I have had a .270 since I was 16 .It has killed atleast 20 deer none seemed to notice it wasnt a mag. I am a big bore fan by heart so that .44 mag and 45/70 are really my cup of tea. But I am 6'3" and weight 250 lbs an ex bodybuilder so I love recoil I never have minded some pain, My military career I was a ranger and I got to be around and shoot many .50 bmg.So that is where that comes from.