Went down to Carlyle Dam today. Was with Snuffy and Had my son-in-law. We could not buy a fish anywhere. They were just letting out a trickle of water out the dam and what ever reason the gar were gone and so were the big heads. Snuffy got a glimpse of two just before the park ranger's ran us off. Boy what a crock. They claim that it is a recreation area and no projectiles can be shot any where. First of all we were recreating too and our projectiles had lines attached to them. What is a fishing pole with a lure being cast out. Is'nt that a projectile?? So we loaded up along with Christine and Kendall and headed down to New Athens to try there. Got there just ahead of a nice rain storm. Was windy, muddy and lots of boats. We did find a creek called Silver creek that we were able to go up a way's and shot some gar and one common carp before the sky opened up and dumped on us. long day for 12 fish and one of them was a shad. But was nice to see Kendall and Christine again.