For some reason I can not get my muzzleloader to shoot right. I tried a few ball-ets and some 530 roundballs with .015 patch and still no good. I worked on the roundball load for a long time. With 90gr my renegade seems to come back and never up. I still get alot of crud out of my barrel from all of the years it has been in use. I think that is why it won't shoot accurate. I am about to give up and get a new barrel. Maybe next time will be better. I atleast started hitting paper this time. Maybe I need to just get used to open sights. The few ball-ets and Hornady's helped smooth my bore out. Even with 90gr and a 425gr Hornady my Renegade went back and not up. I tried the RB with 80gr and 90gr.