all great advice, time and practice will help more than anything, one other thing i didn't noticementioned, the wind will test your paitence beyond belief with a bait-caster, but once you get the "feel" you won't use anything else, i even throw small baits on them, spinning tackle feels really uncomfortable to me, i use all abu garcia 4500's and 4600's but i have owned a few of the quantums and really like them, i think my favorite one was a 1310mg