We've hunted the same area for 3 generations. It is the most God-awfull deer country. Wretched, steril sand country. There are oak trees that are 6"-8" in diameter that are 50 yr's old. In the winter, the deer eat the white pines. Crows, flying across this area, pack their lunch. We've killed spikes and forks every year. But, not a single one of them, ever, was more than 18 mon. old. They had to turn into something.