You're misunderstanding what I said.Deer can still survive and reproduce to a certain degree in poor habitat.It's been happening for years.The herd,for all intensive purposes crashed around here after those winters and now the deer are starting to comeback after two mild winters.There's no doubt about because some of these areas recieve very little hunting pressure,yet there are far fewer deer than there used to be.

The situation in Treasure lake in unique.First of all,they have the landscaping from 1700 houses to browse on all winter and many people feed the deer.We still lost deer that winter in Treasure lakeand recruitment was no doubt effected.I have no doubt that we have less deer today than we did just 5 years ago.The deer came out of winter in better shape than usual this year but I've only seen one set of twins.It's too early to tell yet because most fawns aren't traveling with their mothers on a regular basis.However,I'm willing to bet that few does will have twins and alot of does won't have any.Seventy five percent of this property had zero regnerationeven though over 100 acres were logged last year.The deer survive well during a year with a good mast crop.Otherwise,they live offthe landscaping and they're not picky at what they eat.They even eat holly and rhodedendrum.It's far from an optimal situation for the deer,trees or other wildlife.