philnie, I should receive my new Lyman 57 SME in the mail today from MidSouth. If not today, tomorrow. I think this is going to be the ticket for me. Not sure what my son will like. I hear these come with a smaller and a larger peep.

I hunted with a 30-30 with peep sights when I was a kid, so I am sure I will like them. Don't know about the ghost sights. Would like to see some though.

No guns yet???? Dang, they must have sent those things snail mail. Oh well, the wait will be worth it, trust me.