Doug, I think you think I'm one of those bash PGC no matter what, I'm not.

In a nutshell, I don't like the heads of the DCNR, trying to call shots or putting their foot in any of this, IMO they're management Ideas are not at all for sportsmen for a varety of reasons. Of course PGC isn't perfect but come on, I know they're not against us, they're just under terrible pressure from the above.

You tell me where to go in clearfield area,(outside) twards 80 on north, and I'll try to get out and look around myself!!