thanx for the info...if i cant find them im sure i can cast them...just somethin else for me to tinker with on the cold winter nights!! lol..im going to need a range in my backyard like you just to have time to play with it all and make loads and shoot! im excited...i hope i can pull it all off financally...my school loan company is giving me a run around so i gota see what happens..so i cant place my order till the fall semester starts and i make sure they gimme the money i need...i hope they arent like one of my taxidermist....told me about a year and its going on THREE! but im betting they are better then that....andill be sure to talk to them before i send them money...i cant seem to pick one i like the best yet lol...i too like that Colonial smoothbore...i want something that will shoot well as a shotgun and also have a decint stock to shoot balls from accurately....this gun will be staying as it should..no fiber optic sights...no bluing....time to go look at the webpage again! lol