I usually reach down and break those little spikers off for tooth picks as they walk by TJF. On another note Buckeye i never got an email from you either. You sent one I am sure but i never got it. I hardly ever even read e mail for all the junk I get. I say make Deer slayer 2nd in the contest and I will gladly hold up the third spot with pride. This should solve any problems so you can get the winners their prizes. I thought it was the honor system for scoring our bucks. I did get mine officially scored though at 170 and 3/8 which is 2 inches smaller than I measured myself. We are in the process of moving and the papers are packed away somewhere. So Dabo, is the man with a great buck, followed by Deer slayer for the finest 8 pointer I have ever seen. ( which I thought was under scored) I hope this settles the matter. Peace