I was reading an article today about methods of calling in deer. It went on to explain how if you jump a group of does and they never really get a good look or sniff of your presence, sometimes you can bring them back (and maybe a buck following them) by knocking a tree fairly loud 5 times with the handle of your knife of a limb. The sound simulates a buck pawing to let the does know he's there? Anyone ever heard of this or had any success? I've been hunting for 20 years and the first time I remember hearing about it [:-][8D]. Learn something new everyday.