I have a large community scrape just 20 yards off my property line in PA that is used year round, I actually visited it this weekend and it is still well used and fresh. The area is about 5'x 3'. I will have to take pictures of it next time I am down there. If it was on my property I would have the leaf river game cam onit, however I think the "neighbors" would probably steal my camera if I left it there.