Ithink you're missing my point.I never said the land couldn't carry that many deer and the PGC actually admit's it on their website.Having as many deer as we once did in the state that the habitatwas in wasn't the optimal situation for the deer,other wildlife or the tree.A balance needs to be found.The deer will still survive and reproduce even if the habitat is poor.However,a couple rough winters will crash the population and that's exactly what happened in many remote areas.Alot of these area have few deer yet they're far too remote and rugged for the hunters to have had that kind of an impact on them.I hunt a few areas where I never eversee another hunter.Five years ago there were alot of deer,now there's very few.What happened to them?Bears and coyotes didn't suddenlykill them all and hunters sure as heck didn't.