its like my friend always was telling me"youll never get a deer with a 30/30.the most youll get one at is 100yrds".so since i havent learned my yardage yet, he proceeded to show me one hundred yards .i said you could just call them in.hes all"youll never get em in to100 yrds.".hm.hm hm hm hm hmmm.tell that to all those bow huntersout there.tell that to allthose traditionalbowhunters out there.tell that to all those 30/30 hunters out there.like my dad and my uncle and my other uncle and my grampa.