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Old 05-24-2006 | 06:14 PM
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Grnmtn
 
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I had another member e mail me with similar thoughts. This was most of my response. Their questions are in red...


The cub was the one breaking the rules, who do you DQ?


Actually they all were as a group allowing it to happen more than just once. Yes the cub violated the rule by doing it and the rest of the group violated the sportsmanship rule as allowing it to continue for their benefit. Can't DQ anyone but the poster as they are the one out on the line here. Unless they were to come clean with who was shooting in the group if they remember. I sure can't remember the names of everyone I shot with on Friday or Saturday.
I've been in their shoes having to shoot every target first. It makes the game a bit more challenging.


here is the rule...
IV. SHOOTING RULES AND ETIQUETTE

A. SHOOTING ETIQUETTE

3. In a group that contains archers shooting from different stakes, the archers shooting from the farther stakes must shoot first.



In principal the group violated the rule in the sportsmanship, but could be argued differently....

F. TIE SCORES, UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT, AND MISC.
4. Un-sportsmanlike conduct will not be tolerated. Any action considered un-sportsmanlike by the host club or the IBO will be grounds for disqualification and/or suspension from membership. Examples of un-sportsmanlike conduct include, but are not limited to, the following:


a. Projecting any illuminated aiming point onto a target.



If the cub was a top shooter in his or her class who has the advantage if you are scoring well?

I have a cub shooting now and in the past. If I am shooting well it helps them to an extent, but considering the yardage they average 15 to 18 yards, with a few a bit longer, they can easily see the rings with the naked eye, much more so with the lens a larger number them are shooting now. So arrows in the target for them is less important except for glancing off other arrows as ours are at a bit of a different angle due to trajectory and such.

So I do understand why the cub did it. But doesn’t the group have the responsibility to point out the infraction to them, or did you as a group just say nothing and not report it thus taking advantage of an arrow where you wanted it projecting an aiming point?

This whole dialog shows why it important to ask to shoot within groups from the same stakes. You can ask at the table for this to happen as I did and others who have responded.
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