Here is another .17hmr Savage with the pepper stock. I think these are all some real nice shooting good looking rifles. I have the thumbhole one on order still and has not arrived. Here is their whole rimfire line. http://www.savagearms.com/rimfire_home.htm I have a Marlin mod 60SS semi auto .22 that is a great shooter too. I won it at a Ducks Unlimited Banquet on a $1 raffle. Marlin puts out a nice .22 also.