"bigcountry, as usual with many of you guys that lean toward the latest gimmics and gadgets, you're mixing apples and oranges again."

I don't think so. Just on my chrono, I see up to 200fps velocity differences. Actually (200fps loss). And entering a realm where your are not really supposed to. And thanks for the complement about latest gimmics and gadgets. Your right on, I am not closeminded, hardheaded person. I use my head and logic.

"Black Powder cartriage is not as limited as the reloading of modern smokeless cartriages, and aren't really comparable.The suggested loads for rifles in black powder are just that, suggested, because of the corperate lawyers for the manufacturers. That is to reduce any possible liabilities. By all means, those not experianced should follow all manufacturers reccommendations. I've used 3f since 1962, some 40 years with great results. I find it more reliable to hold consistancy in accuracy."

Well, I guess you found your load that works for you. Congradulations. Alot of people haven't with this method. And you might want to rethink your thought of not really comparable. Same principle, same physics, same harmonics of the barrel. Wanting to achieve the same thing, one hole real fast.

"The measured charges are more consistant. It's cleaner to shoot and gives better results while wiping between shots, for target matches."

Thank you, now this may be a valid reason and what I was looking for as an answer. I just was hoping it wasn't "Well my daddy told me to do it this way, so I did".

"The "felt recoil" with 3f feels much better on my shoulder after a full days shooting, and I don't develope a flinch, because of anticipation, as often with it."

Gosh, I hope you wouldn't with or without FFF if you shoot as much as you say.

Coondog, thanks for the reply.