oh yea i forgot to mention that i stuck a hook in my thumbnal to the barb then i pulled it back out and threw it over to teach it to give me respect now it will rust at the bottom of the atlantic adn teh only gator round here had a news crew all around it so i couldnt wrestle it without gertting arrested so [:'(]i ahd the plan i was gonna jump on it and use the SLEEPER HOLD and very old but good trick