ORIGINAL: sproulman

doug, you always here truth from sproulman. back ,lets say arounddepression on to about 70s, most of the way grouse were hunted was from vehicile. it still is today but you dont have grouse you did back say in 50s /60s .it was meat and thats how you got it.almost everyone that hunted did it this way. as for deer, yes, deer were shot that way to.but most hunted in gangs at camps,then if tired, they took a ride and got their deer.dont ever think that hunters dont know how to hunt.this is way it was and still is today EXCEPT now you have MORE road hunting than before because you have to cover territory to see a deer.as for more dogs today, true. you did not see a grouse dog years ago, you did rabbit dogs but very few grouse dogs. was not needed as road hunting was way grouse were hunted from depression on.no need to make smart remark about getting out of vehicile as why we dont see a deer here in clinton county or 2g. people like yourself that want to try to convince others that we are not HUNTERS and dont get off road or WAYBACK,so we dont know what grouse or rabbits or deer are here.doug, if a rabbit farts,most here know where he did it. same with grouse and deer turkeys. but you are welcome to your opinion why us HUNTERS cant see game you do.just try to not insult us that we dont know how to hunt or find game.trust me, most hunters know how to hunt, wheregame is ,what it takes to get that game,road hunting, driving deer, treestands, dogs.HUNTERS today are more in touch with whats there than i have ever seen in 50 years of hunting.hunters are doing more scouting than i have ever seen do to lack of game.anyhow,maybe you are a better hunter than all of us old timers, ha.take care ,ole friend.