Deerfly,the antlerless allocations were almost cut in half this year in 2G and that's why the antlerless kill was down almost 50%.The buck kill was down but so was the pressure.We also had terrible weather on the two of the biggest kill days.I'm in the woods constantly and my own observations definately tell me that the herd has rebounded since 2004 and it will certainly rebound more after this spring.

I don't want huntersto do anything.All I'm saying is that the deer are there if you hunt for them in the right places.I don't mean travelinghundreds of miles or hiking back in2 miles.There's good places to hunt and poor places to hunt in the same general areas.Most of my hunting is done within 1/2 mile of a road.In some cases,I can actually see a road.You don't have to necessarily get off the beaten path to find deer around here.

Idon't agree with everything the PGC has done but my hunting is no worse today than it was 10 years ago.I see less deer but I still get multiple opportunities to pull the trigger if i so desire.

Sproulman,you have some pretty interseting theories.I especially like the one about how grouse hunting has changed fron a roadhunting game to a dog-hunting game.Maybe if you guys got out of your vehicles and actually hunted you'd see more deer in Clinton county.I can't even believe you typed that.