I've finally figured out how to tie a string loop exactly as my pro shop dealer does it and I really like it. Its very similiar to how bigbulls does with one difference..........the way the tag ends are tied in. Maybe hard to explain without a pic but instead of the tag ends coming straight down they are angled back under the first go around. In other words the tag ends are closer to the arrow nock. I really like his way because it seems that the ends are tighter. Now if I can only get my burnt ball ends to be as nice and as big as his. I will try to post pics later.