So I stopped in to Len's this AM after I finished therapy at the VA. He got in one of those Archery Research bows. It's kind of cool. 34inch axle to axle, really almost a STRAIGHT riser(no reflex/D flex to it) 312-320 fps. That bad boy has limbs that are only something like 8 1/2 inches long. Brace height 6 1/2. Should be a good shooter when he gets it rigged. They have to many bows already to set up for customers etc to be playing right now. I know it's just killing Len not to beable to test it out.[8D][8D] Anyway, it's kind of cool. Comes with a Dozen carbon express arrows.