Oh boy! Another soap box LOL Somebody help me up! I read on every archery forum I can find. Post on a few. Watched this forum and Excal's for weeks before I worked up the nerve to post on an infernal machine I still don't have complete control over. And I realize to all you folks I'm still one of the "new kids on the block". I never saw the starter of that thread or big country post any where else, and like ya'll I'm a little confused too. The only point I want to make is that there are ton's of people out there in cyber space looking for information on the whole vert/horz shebang. Believe it or not, there are even a few verts on Bowsite[s]that are not convinced they want to blindly follow the "party line". Some of them take offense as automatically being labeled "anti" and I for one can't blame them. I look at posts like the one we're discussing as opportunities to tell the truth about the issue, not in the hopes of winning a whizzing contest w/ an anti, but rather to make points for our side to all those folks that are reading silently. To me, they are our resource pool. The more irritating and rabidly fanatical the other side posts and we all know most of the major players there, the better we look, as long as we don't get sucked down to their level. I choose to use humor and ridicule them, while still getting my point across. I consider everyone on this forum my friend and will stand behind ya'll and show you respect. I just think we can catch more fiys w/ honey than vinegar. Dang!! Ain't ya'll sorry I'm Irish?? LOL