Thanks Mite I had been talking to aformer judge of AF who runs the gordon setters and he told me about the prejudice things that he encoutered. Only he described it as more of a color thing in which the
prefference was white. He told me a little bit about the AKC trails and
that Maine has one in the fall. That is about 200 miles from here. So now
I'm trying to decide about this and that is why I would be asking. He told
me he had seen a pup that I had sold a year ago and thought it was a
great looking dog and quickly could see the difference from the show in it.
He told me I might want to concider the AKC as the style means alot but the tail not being at 12:00 as long as the hunt and style is good shouldn't be much of a problem.

Hi Sean I've been taking them out running when I can and talking walks down some grown up roads looking for woodcock and they have found a quite a few migratorys and it has been good for them. Rusty has been pointing them pretty darn good. Roxie is on again off again but she seems to be coming along. At least it gives me hope,as, she has the best nose by far. I'm currently building a couple of pens for quail and pheasant that
I'm planning on getting for them this summer. This should help with Roxie alot I'm hoping. For the time being I have Roxie seperated from Rusty and she has her training on hold as that time for her has come around again
and I'm not planning on any puppies right now.So she will be back to training again in a couple of weeks. I'm also trying to connect whistle training on them now. Rusty has been picking this up pretty good. Roxie hasn't had this just yet but will be shortly.