well i went out to Dicks today....asked the guy and his facial expression alone led me away from it.......though tempting....a 2005 Reflex Buckskin for 230$ set up it wont be coming home with me....he said they were most likely dry fires etc...and the risers should be fine.....but the cams and strings and such were probably damaged....after looking at them closely i found the flaw in all of them....he said they were repaired by Reflex...but bows dont carry any kind of warrenty or anything....just by the look on his face i said thanks and left......no sense in throwing money away....a couple paychecks here soon and ill be shopping....at a real bowshop....thanx for the help.....i cant wait...ill be drilling targets in the back yard all day everyday! lol