Okay ipscshooter, there is a differencebetween a pay out your butt shoot that deer ifyou like him ranch and a few guys getting together and leasing a place. I would consider doing that myself. In fact I went turkey hunting on a lease in Texaslast year. Don't get me wrong, I think Texas is one of the neatest places to hunt. I just don't like the idea of these high paying ranches, but I do understand ranchers wanting to earn extra money. Many of the deer hunting videos are on these ranches, not just in Texas, and it is a joke. Where is your lease located? What is the quality of your deer, truthfully?