I too was on the macho train anduse to shoot heavy bows. I started out at 80# and shot that for years, then down to 70# for a few years, now for the last 5yrs i've been shooting 60# and may end up going lower before it's all said and done.I have bad shoulders at the age of 44and i have no doubt at all that it came from the years of shooting those heavy weight bows. When i hear someone talk about shooting 80# now a days it makes my shoulder ache just thinking about it. I totally agree with Arthurwhen he says toleave the heavy weights to those going on safari for elephants andCape buffalo. Indeed very good advice!