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A fellow in Utah named Dave makes them. He does a beautiful job on them and Dave is a real pleasure to do business with as well. He also makes them for the .45 caliber.

In the .50 caliber they come in 460 & 495 grain weights. I have found you do not have to push this big chunk of lead all that hard to make it work for you.

I often times think of the old buffalo rifles in 45/70 caliber which normally (as I understand it and was toldto me)was a 405 grain .45 caliber projectile on top of 70 grains of powder. I think anyone that read any history of the old west and the buffalo hunters understand the range and killing potential of that cartridge. They made some impressive long range shots with these charges.

These No Excuse conicals and other large conicals I think work on the same principle. They throw a large chunk of lead, maybe not a break neck speed mind you like some of the sabot loads out there, but the conical thenrely on the energy of the projectile to do the work intended.