thanx for the advice kt...its not that i meant to get in close....between the logging that slipped my mind....and the foliage being WAY thicker then im used to i figured i was a good 100yds away....i wont push closer then that...usually farther....i love working gobblers.....thats the fun of it......one i killed i was waiting over 2hrs....he was roosted a good 500yds away....i knew he would come up to my spot sooner or later...preseason scouting told me so...so i waited from sound off till 8am.....only heard him a few times on the roost...then at 8am he gobbled...i was like no way...he gobbled again...75yds away..looking for me....i answered..he gobbled 2 more times and the rest is history.....thats the hardest thing for me to do is be patient......it doesnt run in the family lol....not hearing a live turkey gobble in almost a whole year had alot to do with my excitment and jumping the gun and making my rookie mistake.....if they come back all ill have to do it work them into my set up...if it takes me all season to get one to work then it takes me all season.....and i got enough calls to keep them guessing every day! lol....and alot of back up spots so i dont burn that spot out.....even though ill be hunting at school this week im more anxious to get back there saturday....if they did move i hope i can hear them from my setup incase i have to move or adjust....i honestly dont see them going far the more i think about it....they been roosting there longer then i can remember.....and jut for that reason...they can see good...and are high in the trees...i know a guy that killed his biggest gobbler back there yeaaaaaaars ago....and hes killed many birds...more birds from that flock die of old age or predation then they do from hunters i bet.....im not looking for a monster...but the chances are good there..i cant wait