qzq38b thanks for the kind words. I am having a tuff time accepting this for one I am young 32 years old and another I love to shoot compounds and most of all I love to hunt deer. I once said when I can't shoot a compound I'm done the past two years has changed that for me it doesn't matter how you hunt compound, gun or crossbow just get out there and have some fun. To be honest I was not being ethical in my eyes the past 2-3 years because I couldn't practice the way I should because of the pain but I didn't wound any deer but very well could have because of the lack of practice. My sons bow goes up to 40lbs and I can shoot is about 7 times before I have to stop and my tribute set at 49lbs I can shoot 5 time max. Crossbows in my state Missouri are only legal if you have a permit that you abtain through you Dr.