as the last guy said lone wolf cost a little more but it is worth the money if you buy one it will be the last stand you will buy. I bought the alpha hang on and climbing sticks that attatch to the stand tight w/out rattling around making noise. it is buy far the easiest stand i have ever hung up. i can walk in in the dark, put the climbing sticks and stant up if there isn't much trimming in less than 10 min. you can put them in crooked trees, leaning trees as long as it isn't that severe. go to lonewolftreestands.com and check them out.