I'm with Vapodog, my rifles have to shoot at least 1-1/4" three shot groupsat100yds or they won't be around very long. Right now i have loads worked up that will do under an inch in my rifles with one rifle that will do just under a 1/2" if i'm having a good day and do my part. Some days i shoot great and some days i'm terrible. One thing for sure, all my rifles will outshoot me anyday!