thanks guys. it was pretty cool to get that last one and turn to see everyone about speechless! lol well i guess ill have to see how my new trap gun works! i just got a mossberg silver reserve. shes really well balanced to me and i guess they changed something that when you shoulder it your already on target so that should help a little. ive been looking for an o/u for a while and decided id start with this one and if i dont like it i can get rid of it but if i do it is still a decent looking gun. i was looking at used rugers and all them and even used they were WAY outa my range. for a pretty cheap gun i like the look and feel of the silver. anyone else got one?