keep in mind that when you go into the woods take a couple of different kinds of calls with you. box calls, slate calls, mouth calls are always in my vest. theres been a couple of mornings were a mouth call was not getting any reponses and switched to a slate or box got him to respond!! so diffently keep your opions open!!!!!!!!!be patiant !!!! nice mature birds usally dont come running in sometimes it takes a couple hours to get him in!!!!!!!!!