DaveC, 309 is still cookin', and putting out plenty of energy. Shoot the undertaker, if you like it, that is one heck of a bargain, and just as good a bow if not better than most priced considerabely higher than it. Of course if you are not crunched for cash and have some time on your hands, you could try to hold out for their introduction of the '03 bows, they are supposed to be coming out with some new stuff and cams... I'll be keeping my eye on them.

For the record, my hornet already had limbsavers on it when I first shot it, and it hand shock is not noticeable...