Frank-
Yes, that would be an accurate summation.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Jeff-
I agree with you on some of your points, the ST pockets do help dampen vibration, but realistically IMO nothing more than a pair of limbsavers would do on another bow to be honest, as it is still a metal-to-limb contact. Now, if Bowtech was to utilize some sort of navcom/rubber/whatever membrane under the limb and on top of the ST pocket, and install some other type of dampener in the top of the riser similar to what Mathews and Martin and others are doing, THEN they'd have something. (HMMM, wonder how much Kev Strother will give me for that if I mention it to him at the AMO show? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)
The "full grip" doesn't do much except warm the hand IMO, and does little to stop any vibration from going to the shooter as it is not navcom/rubber/whatever.(?? another idea to sell Kev!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) The sideplate design has a much more comfortable grip for most shooters. To be honest I think most people take the grips off of the Bowtechs anyway cause they have been terrible since day one. I know I did when I was shooting the G-3. To be fair I heard thru the grapevine they are working on this and plan on fixing them.
I also feel Diamond could improve on their overall design by adding similar dampener systems to help with vibration, seeing as they are using the same basic cam platform it would indeed be wise.
You are also correct about the softer cams and slower speeds, but "pure" hunting bows are now designed to be quiet, and shoot at about 20-30 yds normally. Doesn't matter how fast you go past, matters how accurate you are when hunting. Throw an 8" brace on those bows, give 'em some dampeners, limb savers, whatever, full parallel design, an viola, quieter bow that has decent speed anyway. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Big Country25--
Yes, it would be interesting to see how you feel the vibration fares if you tried other models.
Final thoughts, then have to go to work---
I feel there are few bows out there that cannot be tamed nowadays to be completely comfortable in hand, even the super-aggressive twin cams. Why? Everything nowadays is built with tighter tolerances, keeping MOST bows from being "sloppy" and creating alot of undue vibration. Their geometries and designs are also light-years ahead of what bows were back 10-20 years ago, and designed to help in that respect too. Both manufacturers and accessories companies make it very easy for us to set-up our bows to be as quiet and shock-free as we want, certainly quiet enough to hunt with.
I know one thing, when I'm hunting and drawing on a big 10 pointer or Black Bear or whatever, the last thing I am worrying about is "vibration at the shot". I'm worrying about where the arrow will hit. And when target shooting, I really could care less how much noise my bow makes! In fact, the more it makes, the more it bothers my competitors, and this gives me an edge! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Yes, it is nice(a luxury) to have them super-quiet, but not a true necessity as long as they are quiet enough not to spook game at the shot. Doesn't matter as long as it goes into the X or double-lung. Way too much emphasis being put on this dampening "trend" we're going thru, IMHO.
Just my own thoughts, have a great day! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Pinwheel 12
Edited by - Pinwheel 12 on 11/04/2002 08:38:23