The rifle I am seriously considering is the Rem 700XCR. There straight stock fits me very well and I like what i've read about this rifle. It's offered in both 338 WM and RUM, a tough decision indeed. I don't think I will spend the extra for a MkV Weatherby right now. I love my Vanguard MOA but I'm not convinced that the MkV is worth the extra bucks especially when there are other rifles and cartridges that meet or exceed it's performance for less. What do you think about getting the RUM and starting out with reduced loads and working up? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the 338 WM but the ballistics of the RUM, especially with 250 grainers is hard to ignore and probably worth the extra effort in learning to shoot well IMHO.Thanks again for all the advice!