Like i said I did shoot high so hopefully when i can get a good centered shot i can get a nice tight pattern. I will have to try to get to the range next week, i will probably get the sight as soon as i can so i dont have to screw around with compensating. Where i did hit the cardboard it was Pretty tight, but that wont make any difference if i miss the turkey all together. I just need to do some practicing i guess, but i usually cant take more than 3-4 shots before my shoulder says "remington" backwards! i also have a box of federal loads that have that different shot cup that says to get tighter patterns.