Hey, Vapodog, that was not pure BS. He shot at the turkey at full strut. IT DID NOT KILL IT. An improved cy choke opens up real quick. He might have wounded it Idont know but thats what happened. I dont know why that is so hard to believe. Hell Iv'e shot ducks with that same gun at close range and just wounded them. Some times that stuff happens. Thats why I was telling the dude to use a turkey choke. Why the hell would ya use a 410 turkey hunting anyway?? You might as well be using a 12 ga w/ an improved cyl choke, lol.