Hey don't y'all stop someone may find enough info on the xbows we have been pushing to go shoot some of them. OK the Dorton bunch and the 3 pt. gang, y'all know they ain't rated a Ten! Of course you can lump in the rest of those we don't like to speak of. Then i saved my favorite that i do push, call me pushy. The reining champion and title holder of the world ta da EXCALIBUR! Vixen Phoenix Vixen Phoenix, heck buy both of them!