I gotta get up at 5:00 am to go turkey hunting, Dang the luck, land-owner has a depredation permit for deer, so I'll be keeping an eye out for BUCKSthat need depredating. However, I encourage all to check out http://crossbowhunting.net a site w/ No Problems!!! Register, log-in and lets see if we can't get past this B.S. on this site Dan /awshucks