I have no use for one. If I want to hunt small game I will use a 22lr and if I want to hunt coyote or fox I will use my 223 or 243. In my mind they dont cut it for fox or coyotes. And most my small game is shot inside 50 yards so the 22lr works fine. I had a 17hmr for a while and it didnt cut it for me. Take that bad boy out on a windy day and try to hit a quarter at 200 yards good luck. I couldnt beileve the wind drift. That 17 grain bullet dont buck the wind for $hit.