So I went to the pro shop that sold hoyt's and reflex. A lot of the hoyts were out of my price range. I shot some of the more affordable hoyts (lazertec and powertec), and then shot the reflex super slam. I actually ended up liking the reflex much better than the hoyts. It felt better to shoot, it had less vibration, and shot very fast. I can't tell you how impressed I was with the super slam. End of story, I ended up taking it home and i'm very happy with it.