Look in guns section on forums. Someone has a kodiak for sale and an optima.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1467831 CVA kodiak

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1488606 CVA optima

i myself got one of the apex rifles and they are on sale at cabelas at a great price. Heres the link http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=BargainCave&rid=&index Id=cat370001&navAction=push&navCount=7&amp ;parentType=index&parentId=cat370001&id=00 21007