Jc, nothing in the 80 or more four legged animals that I shot (bolt, arrow, slug or bullet via xbow, compound, rifle or handgun) in the boiler room every went more than 100 yards. With out a question the thunderheads are the toughest, most accurate bheads I have ever used. In the end its all about shot placement and confidence. Use what you KNOW what will hit your mark and to hell with anyone else! Its your show, your hunt, your responsibility.