There are new versions of the 710 out. I guess most people dont get out enough or read anymore. They are refined and I liked the first one I bought and I like the new ones even better. If you take the word of some gunsmiths you might be in hot water as most are biased anyhow. I took a concealed carry course and all this gunsmith said over and over is buy a smith , buy a smith. Sure they are great guns but not all can afford them. Holding a gun and using a gun are two different things. If people didntjust rely on how something looked or felt, there would be alot less Edsel owners out there. Now they are collector items.I have actually seen a broken savage bolt and stock, and the rough finish on them. I used one about 7years ago. I actually used one and didnt take the advise of a gunsmith or comments of others.Thats why I dont buy them anymore. If the main pin that holds the bolt headassembly breaks twiceand the syntheticstock crumbles eventually under recoil then i have the right to say, "Hey, I think this gun is junk". If I used a710 and itnothing breaks, is extremely accurate, and serves its purpose for the money I paid for it,I can say its a great buy and reccomend or comment on its pluses or minuses.If you dont have an experience with something others are talking aboutthen dont comment and downgrade it. If youcan come up with somesticks and stones then comment to your hearts content but words without backing are useless in a discussion. She said or he said sounds like 1st graders telling on someone to theirteacher.Now Im done with this issue.