thanks again guys, i have taken some notes. bought my new scope can't wait to get it mounted bore sighted. and start shooting.last time i was out i could notget a group. come to find out my rear wheel on the quick release scope mount was loose.[:@]. any how got some 165grain nosler boat tails going to start at 56 w/ h4350. let you know how i do. start w/ nice tight group at 100yds then 200 then 300 .