i was going to miss one of the few flinters here!! i wont lie....i killed all 10 of my deer with a CF scoped rifle....but opening day i put a headshot on a doe ..50-60yds through thick cover..not trying to brag or anything...it was just to easy....put the crosshairs between her ears when she looked away and touched off.....done deal..wooohooo now i get to gut her and drag her....almost didnt get excited...i will still probably use the rifle for bucks....but only because i gota count to 4 before pulling the trigger.....and doing drives they dont stand around long enough to pull up binocs and count most of the time...actually thinking about taking up archery...actually thinking HARD about it if i have the funds.....then im sure later down the road ill hang up the compound....AND the CF rifles...and just hunt with flinters and stick bows....if hunting was easy theyd call it shopping!! to each his own..but killing does with a rifle is meat in the freezer for me....i love my venision....crunch time...empty freezer...i may grab the rifle and try to make some meat...but i think im sticking more with the flinter..